Oh No, Ross and Carrie

Carrie and Ross offer heartfelt goodbyes and a look ahead. Plus, can you guess how many guests, episodes, and investigations there have been? Cause you better believe Ross counted.

Ross and guest host Darrin Butters, animator extraordinaire, take a walk through chiropractic's history, including many surprising connections to Scientology. Then we find out what happens when Ross visits a third chiropractor and learns the secret KST diagnosis and treatment method. Plus, what are the potential harms of chiropractic, and where should you actually go when your back hurts?

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Ross and Carrie commune with John Hodgman, author, actor, and host of Maximum Fun's own Judge John Hodgman, about all things Communion: the Whitley Strieber book, the Christopher Walken film, and the old-fashioned wine and wafer. Get in on the great debate over energy vampires vs. psychic vampires, relive childhood fears of aliens and exorcisms, learn more about the range of practices that fall under the banner of hypnosis, and find alternate ways to refer to “my wife”.

Behind the scenes Communion video discussed in this conversation.

John Hodgman's TED Talk

John Hodgman's Substack

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Ross and Carrie journey to the ends of the Earth (the West Side) to get Ross a full set of x-rays from his second chiropractor. They sip alkaline water before the young doctor measures and ranks Ross’ body parts before offering a pre-paid payment plan for… a LOT of visits. Ross tries the wobble chair, the decompression table, the cold laser, an activator gun, and weights strapped to his head… All this for leg pain! Who knew? PLUS! Bob Larson sleep paralysis update.

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Ross and Carrie explore one of the most popular alternative medicine modalities in the world: chiropractic. Ross, newly bothered by pain in his back and leg, sees the first of three chiropractors, to find out whether “adjusting” his spine will fix what ails him. Plus, Carrie recalls her years-ago chiropractic treatments for migraines.

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Ross and Carrie unpack a barrel of references to cold reading, hypnosis, stage magic, age regression therapy, satanism, possession, and even spoon bending baked into the horror film “Late Night with the Devil”. Will it turn out to be, like Scooby Doo, a story in which the villain was the janitor all along? Or will our James Randi-inspired curmudgeon Carmichael Haig meet his doom at the hands of the supernatural?

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Ross and Carrie explore the Autism Spectrum Quotient (AQ) test, a “metric for counting autistic traits” created by Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen, aka Cousin Borat. They explore the gender implications of the screener, the debate around self-diagnosis, and the recent absorption of Aspergers into the Autism spectrum. Plus, what happens when Ross and Carrie tell each other their scores at the same moment? Get a glass of water and find out.

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Ross and Carrie learn all about their bodies from Steven Schwartz, aka “Dr. Vibe” – a former chiropractor turned bed salesman who can explain basic physics in a way you’ve never heard before. Did you know that your Living Connective Tissue Matrix must be cleansed in order not to contaminate your body with all of your past experiences? Or that such a cleanse is best completed by Doctor Vibe’s patented tech? Hear more about this visionary thinker before your mind ejects you from this sentence. And as Albert Einstein may have said, stay for the didgeridoo.

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Ross tells Carrie about his trip to a star party at which TV star and paranormal investigator Ben Hansen, along with MUFON analyst-with-an-astronomy-degree Marc D’Antonio, ponders objects in the sky live with an audience of dozens of UFO enthusiasts. Ross is surprisingly pleased with their earthly explanations, until he and Carrie begin to track inconsistencies across platforms and audiences. If consistency is a bellwether for honesty, ring it. (New saying.)

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Ross and Carrie live-eat disgusting and delightsome combinations of foods, many suggested by LISTENERS! This week’s themes are pickles, Mountain Dew, and alcohol. Plus, Carrie is still trying to chase down the soda (root beer?) that makes Lemon Oreos taste like marijuana. She fails, but Ross ends up high for the first time ever. It’s Flavor Babies. [Slurp sounds]

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 In episode 411, Carrie gives Ross INFORMATION about Tracey Garbutt Dolan, a professionally trained remote viewer and E.T. researcher.  Carrie attends Tracey’s talk on developing remote viewing skills by reducing your REM (and, subsequently, your health). Then she tells Ross all about Tracey’s training, scientific experiments, and unusual cognitive experiences.

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Ross and Carrie discuss the remote viewing panel at Contact in the Desert, a UFO conference in the socal desert. With Alan Steinfeld at the helm, this group of non-naval gazers discuss the history of the Stargate Project and their own methods for internally “viewing” a remote location or object. Then, Alan and Ross run their own tests, with impressively unimpressive results. Plus, an ESP app so bad, two out of three people yelled at it.

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Ross shares a talk he gave at SkeptiCamp LA 2024 looking at how practitioners of non-science wall themselves off from criticism. With examples from our prior investigations, Ross examines why an individual or organization might ignore its critics, fight back, vaguebook, flood the zone, cut ties, wall off itself and its members, or elect to positively engage. Plus, some very important and salient information about the communal behaviors of naked mole rats.

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Ross and Carrie examine the claims of Corey Goode, who rose through the ranks of UFO speakers and alleged abductees, ultimately landing himself a recurring gig on Gaia TV before being quietly ejected. Enter Jason Rice, a new Gaia talking head on the very same show, who claims that he – like Corey – was a member of the Secret Space Program, and is in contact with the Blue Avians (™) that Corey either met or (some might say) created. With Corey suing Gaia and others over his “intellectual property,” does that mean it’s… not real?

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Carrie tells Ross about a presentation she attended at Contact in the Desert 2023, a Palm Springs UFO conference. Speaker Caroline Cory has, for twenty years, been bringing “as much science as possible” to the study of paranormal topics like extraterrestrial contact, telepathy, information downloads, and mental health. Ross and Carrie analyze this claim. Plus, roving reporter Drew Spears attends a UFO videography class taught by the mysterious Mr. M.

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As MaxFunDrive 2024 comes to a close, join Ross and Carrie as they announce a new show goal, a live show happening TONIGHT, and preview a segment from Jordan, Jessie, Go! in which Carrie and Blaire Erskine flex their skills as religious goofballs. Support us at maximumfun.org/join

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Ross tells Carrie about “The People’s Advocate,” Daniel Sheehan, a DC-based attorney who specializes in Constitutional law and UFO disclosure. Featured at Contact in the Desert, this Jesuit-turned-disclosure-evangelist reviews UFO history in America since 1945, government programs, and his role in bringing extraterrestrial contact out of the shadows. PLUS, updates about MaxFunDrive, all recorded live at Drew Spears Productions!

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Ross and Carrie announce an exciting upcoming live event, then review Linda Moulton Howe’s “Strange Harvest”, a (local) EMMY WINNING documentary that put everyone’s favorite ufologist / investigative journalist on the map. As Linda walks through a field of literal bullshit, she describes twelve mutilation reports from ranchers and law enforcement, all suggesting that someone is out there, mutilating ranch animals. But who? Ross and Carrie have some ideas, but Linda sees too many strange contradictions.

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We’re kicking off the most exciting time of the year for the MaxFun Network with a trivia game show featuring hosts from tons of great podcasts.

J. Keith van Straaten and Helen Hong from “Go Fact Yourself” are joined by:

Teresa McElroy - “Shmanners” 

Ross Blocher - “Oh No, Ross and Carrie!” 

Ella Hubber & Tom Lum - “Let’s Learn Everything!” 

Jordan Morris - “Jordan, Jesse, Go!” and "Free With Ads"

If you’d like to hear more hosts competing for trivia supremacy, visit Maximumfun.org for the full version of this show.

HOWE does she do it?! Carrie attends radio DJ Jimmy Church’s absurdly chummy “Disclosure Lunch,” where Jimmy lets you know JUST HOW GOOD OF FRIENDS he is with Linda Moulton Howe, Whitley Strieber, Danny Sheehan, and other UFO-whistleblower luminaries. While Carrie identifies the cheap pasta sauce, Jimmy obliquely hits on one speaker who claims she is an alien, then shakes each speaker down for a secret. Plus, somehow, Linda manages to bring Carrie to her knees with a single, passing question. Suddenly, Carrie is the one disclosing at the Disclosure Lunch. Pull up some Ragu and hear Ross hear this whole story for the first time.

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Ross and Carrie read the 1987 UFO memoir Communion, by alleged abductee Whitley Strieber. What happened on the night of October 10, 1985? What could possibly explain the blue light that fills the family cabin in the middle of the night? Why did Whitley wake up suddenly, filled with dread? Why did his personality change from this moment on? And why didn’t he connect any of this to aliens until three months later? Our intrepid author will answer you in only 299 pages. PLUS, something surprising: Carrie and Ross don’t agree on a movie.

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Ross and Carrie ponder new revelations in Whitley Strieber’s recent presentation, “Them,” which he calls “a deep dive into the nature of individual communication with ‘The Visitors.’” These alien beings come to Whitley (and others) from distant stars, to harvest our sperm and trade metals. Whitley compares his own experiences with those detailed in 36 years of fan mail.

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Ross and Carrie show up for a “live” chat with the dead, featuring none other than Thomas John, the Seatbelt Psychic medium made infamous by Operation Onion Ring. He tells everyone to lower their standards, then barely grazes the details of a few of their dearly departed. Then, he shares the details of the “thoughts, feelings and impressions” given to him by the spirits, and how they differ from sights and sounds.
 

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Ross and Carrie visit a psychic each, for predictions about their lives. Carrie’s psychic accurately nails Carrie as a no-kids person, while Ross’ psychic inaccurately nails Ross as a no-wife person. Meanwhile, Ross MAY have a heart attack; Carrie’s cats will NEVER get along; and both Drews (Blocher and Spears) have great news coming this year. Cast your own predictions now!

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Ross and Carrie catalog 77 predictions made by psychics, mediums, and other prognosticators for 2024. ONRAC luminaries like Teal Swan, Kathryn Krick, Lori Spagna, Isaac Mars and others make predictions about this Year of the Dragon. A new pope, a woman in the White House, cures for cancers, the death of celeb culture, and either the shocking rise or fall of Harry and Meghan. Plus, Ross and Carrie both bet that people they admire will die, Ross is worried about the remaining Friends cast members, and Carrie will not give up on Dick van Dyke.

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Ross and Carrie return to dozens of 2023 predictions made by psychics across the world; as well as two co-hosts, one husband, and a robot. Will Nostradamus finally strike gold with Pope Francis news? Is Madonna doing OK? What did one daytime talk show psychic predict about Britney Spears? Did Ross, Carrie, or Drew win this year’s prediction challenge? Did Ross stop playing the ponies? And finally, will completely-obsessed psychic John Cohan at last make an accurate prediction about Grease 2’s Connie Stevens? These and more rhetorical questions in our 2023 year-end psychic roundup! Plus, introducing Georgie M. Poppy!

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Ross meets up at CSICon 2023 with Committee for Skeptical Inquiry Chief Investigator Kenny Biddle to talk ghost hunting equipment, photographic manipulation, psychic “detectives”, spooky uses for an Xbox Kinect, responding to paranormal videos on TikTok, and important life lessons from Patrick Swayze. Plus! Hear all about a recent paranormal challenge of a cloud buster in Las Vegas.

Articles and links mentioned in this episode:
Michigan Nanny Cam ‘Ghost’

Missing Oklahoma Teen Not Found by Psychic

Ghost Hand of 1900

The Xbox Kinect and Paranormal Investigation

KennyBiddleCSI on TikTok

The UFO Movie THEY Don’t Want You To See

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Ho ho ho! We brought you a special surprise: a dour little episode about faith healing! Snuggle up with the children and toast your mug of cocoa as we tell you thirteen tiny tales of woe. Listen as Apostle Kathryn Krick “heals” her worldwide flock of depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, cancer, diabetes, endometriosis, Lyme, Lupus, autism, and more. Unwrap each tale with more horror than the last! Merry Christmas to all!

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Ross and Carrie hobble up to 5F Church for Sunday service with Apostle Kathryn Krick. After worship and some heavy financial guilt tripping, the anointed shepherd calls her flock to the dais for direct healing. Will Carrie’s broken toe fuse itself together, or will it refuse to re-fuse? Plus, they watch a reality TV dating show in which a young Kathryn Krick receives her first kiss!

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Ross and Carrie introduce you to the faith healer taking off on social media, live from her L.A. church. The bright-eyed apostle once came to Hollywood as a would-be actress and EDM singer. Then one day, a prophet of God stopped her dreams in their tracks with these words: “You are an apostle of Jesus Christ, and you're called to reach the nations. I see you ministering to the masses, and God doing shocking miracles through you.” That’s when she began to cast out demons and “heal” the sick, but not without controversy. Ross and Carrie uncover some of the online turf war, and Carrie wonders if this is her in a parallel life. Meet Kathryn Krick!

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